“In 2008, every movie kiss had to look like The Notebook —epic, fluid, and obviously choreographed,” Dr. Friel explains. “But the Ramon kiss is different. Mike’s hand shakes. Ramon accidentally bumps noses. They stop to breathe. It’s real . In a post- Fleabag world, audiences crave emotional clumsiness. We want to see people figuring it out in real time.”
But the internet never forgot it. The phrase “Kissing Ramon Some More” began as a sarcastic Reddit thread in 2019. User @Cinephile_Trash posted a looped GIF of the kiss slowed down to half speed with the caption: “Unpopular opinion: I could watch this awkwardness for an hour. Kiss him some more, Mike.” Kissing Ramon Some More
Indeed, when you watch the extended cut (available on the recent Criterion release), there is a moment after the cut where Ramon almost smiles. He touches his own lips. It suggests the kiss wasn't a climax, but a question. We reached out to actor Steven Plemons (now 45, star of the hit series The North Water ). Surprisingly, he was eager to talk about the scene that once haunted his resume. Q: You’ve joked in the past that the ‘Ramon kiss’ was the most embarrassing moment of your career. Has that changed? “In 2008, every movie kiss had to look
By J. H. Miller, Staff Writer
But fifteen years later, a grassroots movement has emerged online, simply titled It isn’t a sequel, nor a reboot. It is a retrospective analysis asking a provocative question: Did we misjudge the chemistry between protagonist Mike and the mysterious Ramon? The Scene That Divided Audiences For the uninitiated, The Valencia Diversion (2008) follows Mike (Steven Plemons), a neurotic travel writer who gets lost in the Andalusian countryside. He is rescued by Ramon (Diego Luna-esque newcomer Javier Soto), a laconic olive farmer with a secret past. Mike’s hand shakes
It may not be the most elegant kiss in cinema. But it might be the most honest. And honestly, we could all use some more of that.
The first kiss happens in the rain. It is clumsy, desperate, and lasts exactly four seconds. Critics panned it as “performative” and “physically uncomfortable.” Roger Ebert famously wrote that the kiss “had all the passion of two mannequins colliding in a windstorm.”